Possible Ancestry of Ansel/Anselm Goodman of Bedford Co., VA

Two Ancestry Theories

Theory 1:

He was descended from one of the Benjamin Goodman lines in New Kent / Hanover VA in the late 1600s and early 1700s, probably from Benjamin’s son Robert, born ca 1699-1703, through presumed son Robert II Goodman, ca 1725-??, of Lunenburg Co., VA, parent county of Bedford..

This is currently my own opinion and theory, and is supported by what another descendent, Robert Hope Goodman, wrote to his daughter in 1873:

“…The Goodman family were among the early settlers of Virginia, or at least we can trace them back some 160 to 170 years, they settled in that part of the country between Yorktown and Richmond. They were well off, had fine estates and lived like Gentlemen and were well educated for people in that day and time, stood high as noble and true men. That branch of the family that my Father sprang from settled before his birth (which was 100 years ago) in Hanover County….” and “… My Father had a great uncle a bold adventurous man by the name of Ansel Goodman that went West and joined himself to Daniel Boon the Great explorer of Tennessee and Kentucky-he was captured by the Indians and was held a prisoner for a year but finally made his escape and got back to Virginia…”

DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA.com also tends to support this theory, as the DNA results for other known and proven descendants from the Benjamin Goodman lines are very close matches to those of descendants of brothers John Goodman and Anselm Goodman of Bedford County, VA.

Theory 2:

Ansel/Anselm Goodman, and his brother John, were descended from a very different lineage, from the Richard Goodman, supposedly a brother of the John Goodman who was on the Mayflower and died in the general sickness that befell that colony in the second year. Having no other information from the originator of this theory, I am assuming that this was Deacon Richard Goodman, mentioned by several other sources as being a brother of the John Goodman of the Mayflower. 

This lineage is proposed by a later descendant of Ansel/Anselm Goodman, and goes like this:

Richard Goodman; Dates Unknown
Richard Goodman’s Children;
Martin Goodman
Martin Goodman’s Children
John Goodman, George Goodman, Richard Goodman and Charles Goodman
Richard Goodman ‘s Children
John Goodman, James Goodman, George Goodman
James Goodman’s Children
George Goodman, John Goodman
John Goodman’s Children
Lawrence Goodman Jun 2.1743
William Goodman Aug 20,1745
John H Goodman Jun 22,1748
Ancil Goodman Apr 19,1753 (served in Revolutionary War)

My issues with and questions about this are as follows:

In the first generation, it states that Richard Goodman had a son Martin. My subsequent research on Deacon Richard Goodman of New England, who was well researched by others as cited in my sources on that page, did not have a son named Martin. His only known sons were John, Richard, Stephen, Thomas and Samuel, all by his wife, Mary Terry. See also: http://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000002073518700.

In the above, several generations after Richard do not include dates, locations or sources, and citations for where that info was found is needed. I suspect that these sources would indicate a different location and a different Richard Goodman from the one who was in New England in the early and middle 1600s. The names in this lineage also do not seem to follow any of the usual and expected onomastic (naming) patterns that the early colonists used. For the early New England families, that pattern was (usually) to name the 1st born son after the husband, the 2nd after the wife’s father, 3rd after the husband’s grandfather, 4th after the wife’s grandfather, etc. For Virginia families, it was a bit different. The 1st son after the husband’s father, 2nd after the wife’s father, 3rd after the husband’s grandfather, 4th after the wife’s grandfather, etc. Neither of these patterns is evident in the lineage as given.

Of the early Virginia Goodman emigrants, one Richard Goodman appears on the 7 May 1638 headright grant of Thomas Burbage in Upper Norfolk Co. VA. This Richard, age probably about 25 in 1638, is the closest in age to the John Goodman who came to New England on the Mayflower. Two other later Richard Goodmans into VA would have been too old.

Starting with the generations shown above that include specific names and birth dates, the lineage appears to be very close to, and in much more detail, what I have found for some of Ancil/Anselm Goodman’s later descendants, born in NC, KY and IN. However, I have yet to receive a response from the originator of this particular lineage to my questions about their sources, which could have only been very early family bibles and other records that seem to have been handed down through this line, since I can find no other mentions or details on this ancestry anywhere else online or in any of the surviving Virginia courthouse or parish records that I have visited and researched.



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